I <3 LOST

[scififanatic]

I really do heart LOST but can someone please explain the following two things for me:

In tonight's episode, we see the Oceanic 6 at a press conference. Why the hell wasn't Kate hauled off in handcuffs? Does she suddenly get a pardon because she's been lost at sea for 100 days?!

Also, why does ANYONE trust Ben? I thought John was smarter than that. Apparently not. Also, why is that guy who has been courting him since he was a youngling suddenly show up at the island?!

I'm jus' sayin'.

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[carriejones.livejournal.com]

Richard (the guy who has been courting him since he was a young one) is the same guy who Ben saw when he was a young one. This was also on the island. Richard was the one who he saw outside the fence and turned him onto the Others. Richard was also the one who gave John the file about John's father and told John that Ben was getting sidetracked with all the pregnancy issues. He's been on the island a lot.

I have NO idea why Kate wasn't hauled off in handcuffs or why anyone trusts Ben.

[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

Ahhh, that helps. Thank you! I missed just about all of season 3 but I jumped back in this year. Sometimes it's sink or swim when I watch that show. :)

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

I have no idea how Kate avoided being hauled away. I'm guessing nobody aware of who she was happened to be nearby?

As for John, methinks Ben isn't quite as evil as we've been led to believe; plus John is just weird.

As for the unaging man, he seals my certainty that time travel is a feature of the story. And that "moving the island" refers to temporal, rather than spatial, movement.

But who knows?

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

Er, or rather, methinks Ben isn't quite so evil as the people Ben is/was fighting, and so on... and that John feels he has no choice but to trust Ben for now. And John is just weird!

[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

As for the unaging man, he seals my certainty that time travel is a feature of the story. And that "moving the island" refers to temporal, rather than spatial, movement.

I could KISS you, Gord! You're a freakin' GENIUS! (I'm assuming you saw the finale tonight.) :o)

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

Heh... well, our access to it today was limited by technical issues, but I am not surprised and will not be when I see it. :) Which probably won't be till I finish some grading -- only four inches of stuff to get through -- and write a chunk of stuff for a textbook project I'm working on.

Gah!

Watch the kissing though, Lime might get jealous! ;)

[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think you'll still be surprised. I'm interested to know what you think about other elements of the episode. It's like, once they answer one question, they leave you with more questions.

No, I would not want to incite jealousy, though she has nothing to be jealous of because you both sound very much in love and neither goes astray when you find that one person you can spend the rest of your life with. Though, this does make me wonder about courtship/dating practices in other countries. Do people flirt there? (I will admit that I LOVE to flirt with male friends--strangers, not so much--but where I come from, it's all fun and games! I'm sure that's a different story where you're living right now.)

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

Well, I'll be writing up my thoughts on the series conclusion soon... I'll link here when I do.

As for jealousy, I actually was joking. :)

In fact, I mentioned this post to her, when she teased me about knowing some spoilers for the episode. Well, she knows that expression ("I could just kiss you...") and when I told her my response to it, she laughed. I don't know whether most Korean women would react that way, though; from many accounts, each sex quite jealously guards their lovers from the other sex. I've had a couple of friendships essentially destroyed by my female friends' jealous boyfriends (especially jealous when their girlfriend is with a "dangerous foreign man" hahaha, me, dangerous! ha!) and I've known a few guys whose horror stories, while exceptional -- "My girlfriend bought me a brilliant phone with GPS just so she could trick me into giving her access to my online phone tracking account so she could track me all day long and call me if I went somewhere unexpected!" -- was the exception that proved the "rule" that socializing with the opposite sex was generally problematic outside of a very structured, "official" environment like a class meeting or a swim club meeting or whatever.

Then again, this might be precisely because the huge sex trade gets constant use from a lot of husbands. (I think there are reasons for that, of course; that there's more to it than bad men cheating on their wives... that there's an element of sexual repression among many wives that leads them to withdraw sex from the marriage so much then men feel left with no other option. Talking about sex and sex problems, in many older Korean couples, is almost certainly off the table.)

As for flirting, I am not much of a flirter anyway, but I can't say it happens much here. My friend who lived here before me exaggerated when she said that most girls think going for coffee = being in a couple, and an official date = marriage proposal; most urban Koreans are nowhere near as 1950 as that, but they are closer to Western mores in the 1950s than we are, and I think flirting is just one of those things women avoid for some of the same reasons women did in 1950.

What I see more than flirting, in college classrooms for example, are these awkward interactions. Boys insulting girls' looks, for example, is not uncommon. Girls tend to put their feminist foot down, or ignore it if they don't have feminist inclinations. Sometimes female students try to flirt with teacher, but it's more, um, hamhanded? Maybe because girls and boys are separated in high school here and even as young adults socialize more with the same sex than the opposite sex?

(Then again, I'm mostly talking about the interactions I've seen in English. I'd surely do just as badly trying to flirt in French, even if I'm not scared of women (anymore).)

But flirting does happen. The last time it happened to me, someone very quietly replied to my mention of Lime, "What, are you trying to make me jealous or something?" That was funny, but also a bit unnerving, because you could tell it wasn't quite all a joke. Which I think is the thing: I don't think sex, love, and relationships are things people actually joke about, because it could get them a very bad reputation very quickly. (ie. She winked at me, she must be "easy.")

Anyway, you've got me thinking I should write something about this. Yet I get the sneaking feeling someone else I know has done so already... I'll look around and see.

[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

Boys insulting girls' looks, for example, is not uncommon. Whaaaaa?! Do they really think that's going to get them some play?!

Maybe because girls and boys are separated in high school... I didn't know that, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised. My goodness!

especially jealous when their girlfriend is with a "dangerous foreign man" hahaha, me, dangerous! ha! Oh, but Canadian men are so hot! Didn't you know that already?! Particularly ones who like sci-fi and jazz! ;)

*Edited addition* Well, I'll be writing up my thoughts on the series conclusion soon... I'll link here when I do. And I'm looking forward to that. Not a lot of my friends watch the show so when I found out you had a handle on what was going on, I got very excited (hence the kiss you remark). :o) Looking forward to your analysis because I'm very much hooked on the show now.

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

LOL I may be exaggerating things a little, but...

Whaaaaa?! Do they really think that's going to get them some play?!

Well, when everyone's selling day old bread, you get used to it. And go to the shop with the cutest clerk, and settle. The younger generation is slowly catching on, though.

I didn't know that, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised. My goodness!

Ah, yes. It's one of the reasons I strongly oppose gender segregating schooling; or, age segregated schooling for that matter. Actually, I just oppose schooling in general, to be honest.

Oh, but Canadian men are so hot! Didn't you know that already?! Particularly ones who like sci-fi and jazz! ;)

I must have missed that part. Actually, when I learned to swim, a few years back, and lost all that weight, I did have a brief period of being besieged. Keep telling myself to go to the gym, not just for health's sake but to get better teaching reviews and a decent job next year. Lose 10 kilos, probably get my pick of jobs. Man... what a world.

And I'm looking forward to that. Not a lot of my friends watch the show so when I found out you had a handle on what was going on, I got very excited (hence the kiss you remark). :o) Looking forward to your analysis because I'm very much hooked on the show now.

Yeah, it's funny how so many people became so anti-Lost for some reason. I think people just can't handle long plot-arcs, or interesting enigmas, anymore. Too much Friends and shows like that rotted their brains.

Then again, I am enjoying Chuck these days, too, even if it is a bit brainrotty.

[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

Where's my LOST review?!

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

Patience, Yougn Grasshopper. We're almost in the thick of midterm exams, but I *will* get to it. I want to do it justice! :)

[scififanatic.livejournal.com]

Ahh, yes. Patience. I will wait because I know you'll do it justice. :o)

[eclexys.livejournal.com]

Ha. You have too much faith in me. I couldn't even spell Young! :)

People still watch that show?

[teepleacres.livejournal.com]

Hubby and I ate up the first season. By the end of season two, we found it so unsatisfying that we just shut off the tv and went to bed.

If the show was a book, I don't think it would sell. I find it way too confusing and I don't like to work too hard at watching tv shows. It's gotta be simple, funny, & entertaining or forget it.

I don't think LOST is any of those. I'd rather read a book...